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Thanks for checking out my channel! Here you'll find historical shooting with a focus on 19th century black powder military rifles, with the occasional earlier smoothbore or later smokeless powder rifle mixed in, for good measure.
Things you will see here: lots of long range rifle shooting with historically correct ammunition, and an emphasis on representing these arms in the historical context they were developed in. I try to balance the history and context of a particular rifle with the fun part of shooting it!
What you WON'T see here: modern stuff (there's a ton of other great channels about that), shooting aluminum cans at short range (again, lots of other great channels doing that), and people who don't know what they're talking about.
Thanks for stopping by!
Brett
Things you will see here: lots of long range rifle shooting with historically correct ammunition, and an emphasis on representing these arms in the historical context they were developed in. I try to balance the history and context of a particular rifle with the fun part of shooting it!
What you WON'T see here: modern stuff (there's a ton of other great channels about that), shooting aluminum cans at short range (again, lots of other great channels doing that), and people who don't know what they're talking about.
Thanks for stopping by!
Brett
How the US Army’s leadership doctrine came from the Dreyse Needle Rifle… (well, maybe…)
Mission Command is the U.S. Army’s approach to command and control, and according to the doctrine writers, Mission Command’s roots go back to the Prussians, who had a really cool rifle: the Dreyse Zündnadelgewehr (needle gun).
The Prussians developed new tactics built upon the firepower of the Needle Gun and the independence of commanders who were expected to take initiative and seize opportunities, even without direct orders.
While there are significant differences between the modern day US Army Mission Command and the old Prussian system, they have a lot in common, and traditionally the army has recognized these ideas originally came from the Prussians. Did they? Depends on who you ask.
The Prussians developed new tactics built upon the firepower of the Needle Gun and the independence of commanders who were expected to take initiative and seize opportunities, even without direct orders.
While there are significant differences between the modern day US Army Mission Command and the old Prussian system, they have a lot in common, and traditionally the army has recognized these ideas originally came from the Prussians. Did they? Depends on who you ask.
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When the Rifle-Musket beat the Prussian Needle Gun (well, almost…) - the 1866 Campaign of the Main
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The Prussians Dreyse needle rifle (Zündnadelgewehr) fought against rifle muskets several times, and usually prevailed without much trouble, such as the campaign against Austria and the decisive victory at Königgrätz. But against the smaller Kingdom of Bavaria, whose soldiers had the excellent M1858 Podewils muzzleloading rifle-musket, the Dreyse might have met its match…
How Prussia Won the 1866 Austro-Prussian War (no, it wasn’t just because of the needle rifle)
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The famous Prussian needle rifle (Dreyse Zündnadelgewehr) was an amazingly modern weapon, technologically advanced, and massively superior to any other infantry weapon at the time… in the 1840s when it was adopted, that is. By 1866 the thing was crude, obsolete, and starting to become a dangerous liability. Yet the Prussians won handily against the Austrian Empire, routing the Austrians at Köni...
Why didn’t we use the Dreyse Needle Rifle in the Civil War?
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It seems like a no-brainer: a bolt action rifle is a lot better than a muzzleloading musket! But why did the U.S. Army Ordnance Department refuse to adopt the Dreyse Zündnadelgewehr (needle rifle) in the years leading up to the Civil War? Were they so staggeringly incompetent and stupid that they missed the advantages of a breechloading rifle? Or were there other reasons why they decided to pas...
From Cutting Edge to Obsolete in One Year: the Danish Model 1848 Tapriffel
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The Danish 1848 Tapriffel was very best of the pillar-breech rifle system, but had the ironic misfortune of being developed just one year before Claude-Etienne Minié’s revolutionary new “Minie ball” appeared in 1849. Quickly surpassed by more modern rifle systems, the 1848 Tapriffel soldiered on long past its prime, being used in the second Schleswig War in 1864. By then they were hopelessly ob...
The first Rifle Muskets: Chambers and Sabots and Pillars (oh my!)
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We all know about the famous Minié bullet (or Minnie Ball, as Civil War soldiers called it), but ten years before old Claude Minié proposed his newfangled idea, there were still rifle-muskets being used. These include the Delvigne, Pontcharra, and Thouvenin systems, which have been long forgotten, but not for much longer! With various systems of chambers, sabots, pillars, and patches, these rif...
M1854 Lorenz Rifle-Musket Cartridges: History, Development, and Shooting
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Only Paper Cartridges can talk for more than an hour about musket cartridges and bullets for the iconic M1854 Lorenz rifle-musket. We cover the historic context and background of the ammunition developed for the Austrian Empire’s excellent rifle. Compression bullets, expanding bullets, Lorenz and Wilkinson and Podewils, and even old sheep grease… if you ever want to know anything about Lorenz c...
Why does the ramrod always get put back? (Because the sergeant says to, duh!)
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The question I get asked the most is: why put the ramrod back, when shooting for speed with a muzzleloader? True, it takes more time to put the ramrod back into the musket. But it was a habit that was beaten into soldiers of the 19th century (and before), so that’s why I do it. Even if it does take maybe a couple more seconds.
The U.S. Army WWI rifle, made in Canada, in .303 British: the 1905 Ross Mk. II 3*
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An American-Canadian .303 British World War I military rifle… there is so much going on with this 1905 Ross Mk.II (technically, Mark II 3*). In many ways it had three lives. First, it was a cutting edge battle rifle, at least briefly. When the Ross failed to hold up to the miserable conditions of trench warfare, it was relegated to storage but found a second life in the hands of U.S. doughboys,...
Progressive Depth Rifling: the most misunderstood feature of Civil War-era rifles
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Almost all Civil War era rifle-muskets had a special form of rifling in their barrels, with grooves that were quite deep at the breech but got gradually shallower towards the muzzle. For some reason, this made them more accurate. People have been asking why ever since. Progressive depth rifling is poorly understood and the source of much confusion and argument. Is it absolutely necessary? No. B...
Influence of the Crimean War on the Civil War
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History nerds, rejoice! I was honored to be the guest speaker for the Old Baldy Civil War Round Table near Philadelphia, PA, and of course I spoke about my favorite topic: how the Crimean War influenced the Civil War. From McClellan's famous saddle to the battlefield changes brought about by the rifle, I cover most of the big-picture influences that the Crimean War of the 1850s had on the Ameri...
Italian reproduction rifle-muskets: the good, the bad, and the ugly truth about the rifling
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The ugly truth is that Italian reproduction rifle-muskets don’t have the historic type of rifling that the originals had. Pedersoli, Chiappa, Armi Sport, etc., make reproduction Enfield and Springfield rifle-muskets with constant depth shallow groove broached rifling, while originals had progressive depth deep cut rifling. Does it matter? Well, yes, at least it does matter if you want to shoot ...
The 13 tube Blakeslee Box for the Spencer repeating Civil War carbine
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The Spencer was a brilliant design, incredibly modern, as a magazine fed repeating rifle… but its painfully slow reload process limited its capability. That is, until a great new piece of Civil War kit enabled soldiers to reload the Spencer magazine in seconds: the Blakeslee box. If you are going to shoot a newfangled Spencer carbine or rifle, you might as well go all out, and use the 13 tube B...
The worst gun of the Civil War? The .71 caliber “Garibaldi” rifle, aka Austrian M1849 Kammerbuchse
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Civil War soldiers hated the “Austrian rifle,” for its old fashioned features and absolutely brutal recoil. But maybe the problem wasn’t with the gun itself, but how Civil War soldiers were using it? I was really surprised by how well the M1849 Kammerbuchse shot using the original style ammunition. Have we misjudged the “Garibaldi rifle” for the last 163 years? Also…. I think Spitzkugel is my n...
The first detachable magazine rifle: the .45-70 Remington-Lee Navy
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Detachable magazines. Black powder .45-70 cartridges. Bolt action. With one foot in the old black powder era, and one foot in the modern age of firearms design, the Remington-Lee Navy remains one of the most influential rifle designs in history, and is the ancestor of virtually every modern firearm with a magazine. And it’s possibly the coolest black powder rifle ever.
Private Snuffy dodges lead behind the "Stone Wall" on Cemetery Hill (preview of upcoming project)
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Private Snuffy dodges lead behind the "Stone Wall" on Cemetery Hill (preview of upcoming project)
What’s the fastest way to shoot a Brown Bess? No, it’s not Sharpe’s “spit loading” method.
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What’s the fastest way to shoot a Brown Bess? No, it’s not Sharpe’s “spit loading” method.
Making realistic Enfield blank cartridges for the authentic reenactor
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Making realistic Enfield blank cartridges for the authentic reenactor
A Civil War soldier shot my house! How this Union .58-cal Minie Ball ended up in my shop attic
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A Civil War soldier shot my house! How this Union .58-cal Minie Ball ended up in my shop attic
How accurate is a Civil War rifle musket at 100 yards?
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How accurate is a Civil War rifle musket at 100 yards?
The Six Shot Challenge: speed shooting with the Austrian M1854 Lorenz Guncotton cartridge
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The Six Shot Challenge: speed shooting with the Austrian M1854 Lorenz Guncotton cartridge
How accurate is a Civil War Smoothbore Musket at 100 yards?
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How accurate is a Civil War Smoothbore Musket at 100 yards?
Shooting the Guncotton Cartridge for the M1854 Lorenz
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Shooting the Guncotton Cartridge for the M1854 Lorenz
The Von Lenk Guncotton Cartridge for the M1854 Lorenz
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The Von Lenk Guncotton Cartridge for the M1854 Lorenz
Hunterstown, July 2, 1863: Custer's First Charge
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Hunterstown, July 2, 1863: Custer's First Charge
The Rifle-Musket did not really influence the Civil War
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The Rifle-Musket did not really influence the Civil War
Minié ball… or Delvigne-Tamisier-Burton-Benton Ball?
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Minié ball… or Delvigne-Tamisier-Burton-Benton Ball?
Why did some Civil War-era rifle bullets have plugs?
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Why did some Civil War-era rifle bullets have plugs?
5 Shot Challenge: Can Paper Cartridges beat the Operator Rebs? The world holds its breath!
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5 Shot Challenge: Can Paper Cartridges beat the Operator Rebs? The world holds its breath!
Why did Civil War bullets have grooves?
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Why did Civil War bullets have grooves?
Side note: the Empire of Brazil (1822-1889) also had contact with the Dreyse. Some say the rifles came with a legion of german mercenaries in the early 1850s, but i find that impossible; a more reliable claim is that the Empire bought around 3000 to arm an experimental battalion during the war against paraguayan dictator Solano López, between 1864 and 1870, one of the last (and hardly talked) wars of the musket era. The infantrymen hated it and replaced with the regular belgian Minié rifles, or Enfields that armed some of the Volunteer battalions. I have to recall from memory what i read once since sources are hard to find again. The Dreyse had complains on jamming (no doubt by fouling, and maybe broken needles), humidity on the theater (affecting lubricants or gaskets?) and weight (the experimental unit was light infantry, and the fighting had much broken terrain and quasi-guerrilla clashes). Two other side notes: The Imperial cavalry loved the Spencer carbine and used them to great effect late in the war. Apparently it was so successful that even Winchesters were rejected later in its favour. Spencers served the cavalry in distant corners of the Empire to its end in 1889, and in the initial years of the military dictatorship that followed. After 1868 some Chassepot rifles arrived in the Empire and may have been tested in the conflict. I don't know how, but i guess Count d'Eu - husband to the great Princess Isabel, chief of the Imperial Army and final victor over López - had an influence in the acquisitions since he was grandson to deposed King Louis Phillipe I (no relation to Napoleon III, but i don't believe they were enemies). The evaluation by the Army post-war was somewhat sketchy, plus, by 1873 the robust belgian Comblain was adopted anyway.
Can you please tell me what is the GSM of the paper that you used 🙏🙏🙏
I don’t know what it converts to in GSM but it is about 12lb weight paper
Interesting to see the Dreyse struggle at 300m and beyond. Had the austrians not been so french the prussians would have a hard time, at least at the tactical level.
This may be a bold claim, but I don't think Snuffy's injuries are service related. That keyhole is maybe going to graze his leg, but he'll be fine. His limp is clearly caused by something on his personal time.
2:39 - I don't believe people actually think that such a work of fiction with a nonsensical reloading method had some reality to it.
Unfortunately I think people will believe just about anything
I didn't know that Jason Kelce knows about old guns?
Hey I have another question 😅😅 Can I use the brown food wrapping paper.
George Frideric Handel was not British. So why are you playing a bit of music that sounds like he might have written it?
Well actually he was British, since he moved there and was given citizenship by the King.
What is the size of one cartridge
About 2 inches long
Can we use kraft paper
Yes but it’s pretty thick and might be hard to tear open with teeth.
@@papercartridges6705 Hey I have another question 😁😁 Can I use brown food wrapping paper
What kind of accent do you have, or is it an affection you have developed because of a fatal illness?
It would be faster if he tucked the ramrod between his legs between shots.
Austria....always worried about pennies...yet slaughtered men without concern...sounds like this empire was heavily influence by the zionist usury money jangerlers. Hymie goldshims😅
Excellent video
Soldiers during ACW were trained to knee aim at advancing troops. The line officers would use their sabers horizontally to show the troops to aim low. Seasoned troops understood the mid range trajectory of the minie & conditioning TO aim low at the troops in formations 100 yd or more.. one must consider the manual of arms / tactics were from napoleon's period being taught in military academy using mass volley fire. This regimen continued in the U.K. into WW 1. Knee aiming was also potentially very devastating upon the receiving end. A very high % of wounds were in the legs or upper chest /head, consider, As the soldier was struck in the leg and began to fall usually a second volley would arrive as he was falling striking in the upper chest arm or head. Even if struck only in the leg the wound was usually fatal due to the severing of the Popliteal artery which led to Quick death bleed out. We knew a person who researched this topic of knee aiming & related wounds of the ACW quite extensively for a college essay...also the wounded were struck as the lay upon the ground. As the battles raged the unseasoned troops would start shooting at high aiming point and as the excitement progressed ended up shooting into the sky..the bullets striking harmlessly between formations in the stageing areas or as spent projectiles causing little damage in the fleshly parts of the body. Though may still crack or concuss if struck in head. Amazing the science of evil genius that goes into killing each other...while people starve, want for habitation people kill each other for trival concerns... Mankind, we haven't evolved to highly still killing each other today for same motives, power, & money veiled in faked moral reasonings and excuses😢
Thanks for this great video! And thank you for your service!
Extremely interesting, particularly the part of estimating distance correctly. Never thought about in fact.
Glad you found it interesting!
Lovin' the Hungarian mail bag. If you need the Deutsche Fraktur translated, feel free to get in touch.
Fraktur is not hard for me to read, but I still struggle with handwritten German!
so anything with blackpowder can be counted as musketry? so a chassepot and lee-metford count...
Thank you very much for this very inform|ative video.
You got off to a slow start but, by the 21 minute mark, you had convinced me!
Glad you stuck around!
@@papercartridges6705 It was a near thing!
Great video, very educational.l have a 58 cal enfield 2 bands rifle and I’m using a .560 Pritchett mould , I want to try wooden plugs which are very hard to find I have been told that.560 bullet doesn’t need a plug Looking forward to hearing from you Alain
It depends on the thickness of paper you’re using for the patch. I think .560 may be too small to expand without a plug. The historic Pritchett bullet was a .568 diameter, and when rolled up into the cartridge, it came out to .576 or about one thousandth of an inch smaller than the bore. These didn’t need a plug since the bullet only needed to expand a small amount.
Short Answer. VERY! I should show you my 1855 with 45 grains of 3f off the bench. 3.5 inch shot groups and it is not a accurate as some. i have seen people shooting .54 ca; Mississippies hooting the Wilkinson Bullet
550 yards was the EFFECTIVE range of an M16-A2 because that is about how far most people can see and bd guys do not tand out in the open usually. WIll the bulllet go further? Sure. I shoot 1855 in competition in at 50 and 100 yards with only 45 Grains 3f... We shoot a lot and the we do so for lower recoil. I shoot woth the N-SSA. Yep, big difference between effective range and Maximum range. You should be ble to put five bullets almost in the same hole at 50 yards off the bench. Then try standing..
Excellent presentation. Many people still held the Dreyse in magical regard, but reality was more complex.
Watched this after watching archers with recurves and longbows try to hit things at 100 yards, and I'm beginning to think the whole trope of bows being more accurate than a smoothbore musket is a myth, and maybe the musket replaced the bow because it was just a better battlefield weapon.
"bows were better than muskets" is among the biggest myth youtube "historians" helped to spread. online people think history is like videogame where if you upgrade to gunpowder era you don't use bows anymore and make dumb assumptions that muskets never faced bows and if they did they would lose to bows. the truth is that there are countless contemporary accounts from Asia to America of muskets facing against bows and they all agreed that it was musket that have the advantage. there are NO accounts from the era ever claiming that bows are superior tactically and only lose to "ease of training", only vice versa is true. from tudor english against france, conquistadors against americans to koreans against japanese all wrote about how musketeers defeat archers in combat most of the time.
Thank You for your service!
You may be correct, but do you have a wicked guitar solo that climaxes when you get to four shots in a minute?
There is a benefit to using FFF over F in long poweders for my area. For some reason, we have ass of Swiss FFF and very little F an no one seems to know why.
The Sharpe series got a lot of things wrong. For example, it couldn't even kill off Sean Bean's character properly. 😃
I just started making them for my son. Thanks for the tutorial 😀
I saw a demonstration in UK where (with the touchhole opened up a bit) they dont prime the pan, and thats why they hit the butt on the ground - not to seat the bullet - but for the main charge to spill out the vent into the pan. So you load the powder, then paper and ball, slam the butt on the ground which also primes the weapon and then fire. The result is lower velocity/pressures, because of the bigger touchhole, but result is very quick loading. Spit loading being done on horseback is the only context I have heard of it, with whacking the butt on the saddle pommel to seat the ball.
excellent video, thanks! (comment for the holy algorithm)
I really enjoy your channel. very reminiscent of the old history channel type shows.
that is wonderful! how did you work out the exact formulation.
Biased video
3rd rate UA-camr and pseudo expert?? I think I've never heard such a detailed, clear, entertaining and academically sound discussion of a very complex and generally misunderstood/over simplified subject.. and all this done whilst on deployment. "Impressive" barely covers it.. Was really intrigued by the stats on small arms injuries over the mid-late 19th century wars. Really surprised that artillery casualties weren't higher during the Franco Prussian war as had always heard that German artillery + agile tactics and effective mobilization gave Prussia the edge vs the superior Chassepot. Are you planning any video on that war? (Apologies if they already exist and I've just missed them😅) Superb channel - just what every 19th century military history enthusiast dreams of..
Is that a real rifle or a reproduction? I have a Armi Sport repro and isn’t very accurate - the rifling inside is not the same as during the Civil War
Reproduction with a Hoyt relined progressive depth barrel, so it is to the original rifling spec. You’re right about the Armi Sport rifling, they have such shallow grooves they don’t stabilize Minies very well at all.
Guess the Italian rifles are only good with the bayonet then
I knew it was the rifle and not me missing that target
Fun fact: the 303 British cartridge and the 7.7 Japanese cartridge share the same bullet diameter so 303 projectiles can be loaded into 7.7 cases and vise versa
BITE POUR SPIT TAP AIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hahaha great stuff!! i love it!!! :D
And then came the Indian mutiny
8x52 😂
And with 62 grains of black powder!
@@papercartridges6705 I thought they shot 8x50
Interesting. The picture of Wallingford with his tunic emblazoned with badges and medals shows a different rifle. Lee Metford. I wonder if that was the rifle he used for his range exploits?
I think this is the first to bolt action rifle in the world more than the russians made
german engineering . . . or, prussian. the first bolt action in europe
Even to the end of the war, you could still find percussion smooth-bore muskets in service and not just in the secondary theaters or second line troops. The Irish Brigade for all of its existence, armed only one regiment, the 28th Massachusetts with rifle-muskets (.58 M1861). This regiment was used as the brigade skirmishers. The other four original regiments were armed with (and retained in service until 1864), the .69 musket M1842. These muskets were used with "buck and ball" ammunition, a single large ball and three buckshot. And the problem of standardization remained. Between 1857 and 1862, tens of thousands of M1842 muskets and even earlier flintlock muskets converted to percussion, were rifled and fired a massive .69 Minie type round. There were the imported weapons that took everything from a .71 ball to a .54 Minie round. These weapons were placed in four categories, one through four, with one being the best, the .58 M1855 rifle and rifle-musket, the M1861, M1861 Special and M1863 rifle-muskets and the .577 Enfield rifles and rifle-muskets. The Enfields were almost dropped into category two, because they were commercial models without interchangeable parts. The Dresden rifle-musket and the Lorenz rifles and rifle-muskets along with both caliber M1841 "Mississippi" rifles were in category two. As production ramped up of the M1861, imports were reduced, even that of the Enfields and no more foreign rifles or rifle-muskets were imported from the beginning of 1863. The increased production also led to most of the imported firearms and some of the older American conversions being disposed of. But while this was happening, the US Army found itself having to supply ammunition to a new set of firearms, breech-loading single shot and magazine rifles and carbines such that by the end of 1863, it was issuing ammunition for Spencers, Henrys, Sharps, Burnsides and Merrills. The ammunition situation was not resolved until 1875-76, when the Sharps and Spencers were withdrawn and replaced with the .45-70 Springfield rifle and the 45-60 carbine.
I'll take Catfish over Lutefisk anytime!
But this was a can of extra rancid lutefisk! The finest!